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Punks, Body Piercers: Any Comments on the Sites Below?

I'm very interested in the process of co-optation and conventionalization in radical subcultures and intellectual, social and political movements.  I'm curious what members of the subcultures/practices below might have to say about these sites.

http://www.punk.com/

http://www.silver-safari.com/

And, I'm just bored.

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