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okay, i know the question sounds offensive or just downright dumb...but here is where i am coming from...

i was reading this book on women studies at the university last week and it's about feminism (I think it was Jane sexes it up, or female chauvinistic pigs or something--i was reading 3 feminism books and i can't remember which one it was from). So anyways, I have read arguments about anti-penetration or anti-penis feminists who says that submitting into penetration is like letting a man own you. Letting a man occupy your space and submitting to his phallic power. There was also a lot of arguments about anti-dildo, as it represents the penis -- [although personally, i think dildos are a good symbol of power because it shows that if all men have that we don't is a penis, well then we have dildos to make up for that, ergo they're not really any good for us anymroe...]

but yeah, so if some feminist groups are againsts penetration, penis, dildos, or anything that represents the male sex organ, then does that mean you have to be a lesbian who never uses or thinks about a penis or anything of the same shape ans purpose to be a "real feminist"?

any thoughts on this one?

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There are many kinds of feminism. And if anyone is obsessed with trying to dictate who is a real feminist or not, it is my opinion that their attitude is not particularly feminist to begin with...at least, not "my" kind of feminist. As far as I am concerned, it is ridiculous to label any activity with my bits as good or bad as a reaction to the fact that people have mistakenly defined vagina in relation to penis. Penetration is not owned by the penis. That's just silly talk in my book. That's politics getting in the way of reality.
i agree with betty. who are they to define feminism? and isn't feminism all about not having rules about how a woman has to be?
not all feminists are lesbians, not all lesbians are feminists. Any essentialization is really off the mark.
using a dildo shows that women don't need dicks in the bedroom.
and i agree that women shouldn't classify other females and they should all be unified together.
feminism can be followed by rules on how a woman SHOULD be. but again that depends on how you classify different feminists.
youve answered your own question by saying that its 'some feminists' or 'some book' you read.
as if ariel levy would claim that. if you can teven remember which author it was then youre not really paying attention.
no. especially if you are talking about postmodernist feminist thought. the concept of sexual orientation as categorized by society is completely constructed. without these categories of sex there would be no system of sexual orientation. feminism is about many things, and works for many people, not just women.
i don't think all feminists are lesbians, but im pretty sure all lesbians are feminists. bahahahhaha X]


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