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Permalink Reply by incurable hippie on November 13, 2009 at 10:17am
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Permalink Reply by incurable hippie on November 14, 2009 at 1:34am How would you guys finish the sentence? I had to really think about how I'm different from most other girls, not how I'm different from the stereotype of a perfect girl. I think you're underestimating incurable hippie and the zine community in your criticism - I'm sure we could all come up with something better than 'because I don't wear makeup'.
Permalink Reply by kit feral on November 14, 2009 at 5:33am Thank you Nadia! I've just read through all the submissions again, and can not only confirm that not a single person said 'because I don't wear make-up' but also that it is full of creative and moving ends to the sentence, I'm not like other girls because.
Nadia Brady said:How would you guys finish the sentence? I had to really think about how I'm different from most other girls, not how I'm different from the stereotype of a perfect girl. I think you're underestimating incurable hippie and the zine community in your criticism - I'm sure we could all come up with something better than 'because I don't wear makeup'.
Okay...I don't really know how I feel about this. I get that it's kind of a bummer sometimes to be a lady who doesn't meet certain gendered expectations (not dressing the "right" way, not having the "right" kind of cultural tastes), but framing it as "I'm not like other girls because..." seems to me like it's just reinforcing gender stereotypes. Like, "I'm DIFFERENT, not like the rest of those shoe-shopping, Sex-and-the-City loving airheads!" Amy's reply above me here is exactly the kind of thing I'm worried about. You think "car[ing] about things that don't involve [you]" makes you an anomaly among females? I'm sorry, but what the hell? How is that not a misogynist statement?
I used to be really into thinking that I was special because I didn't wear makeup, dressed kind of tomboyish, and listened to metal, and I used to put other girls down all the time for being stereotypically feminine in their dress and cultural tastes. Then I got out of middle school and realized that talking shit on "girly girls" just reinforces a system in which markers of femininity are considered bad/weak.
There have been some good zines written in part about being a lady-identified person who doesn't fit neatly into the "feminine" box - Truckface and Emergency are two I can think of that have dealt with these issues in an engaging way that didn't involve putting down other females. I think a comp zine that deals with ways that people defy gender stereotyping definitely has the potential to be awesome, but I really can't get behind the concept of this one.
Permalink Reply by Nadia Brady on November 15, 2009 at 7:27pm
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Permalink Reply by kit feral on November 17, 2009 at 7:41am True. I was mostly in a crappy mood. I think the more correct version would be "I'm not like other high schoolers because...:
Permalink Reply by Jessica Espiricueta on November 17, 2009 at 2:48pm I don't think you can make generalizations like that without getting backlash. There's plenty of high schoolers that care about what's going on around them, and plenty of adults that DON'T.
Amy said:True. I was mostly in a crappy mood. I think the more correct version would be "I'm not like other high schoolers because...:
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