a place for zinesters - writers and readers
interesting points, but im not quite sure exactly what you mean. this begs some questions of me as a 'zinester' and i do not represent any sub culture, any group, any ism for that matter...but are you assuming that everyone that utilizes the term 'zinester' are collectively some hip crowd of punk diy revivalist? have you not considered the large and prominent number of makers of art zines, comic zines, contemporary art review zines? 'zinester' is that lack of a better term, yes we are writers, poets, artists but we use our talents and showcase our skills and ideas via zines; hence we can be classified as generic 'zinesters.' are there not multiple venues and media to express your ideas, art, writing in your perspective? as a 'zinester' i use my poetry, creative prose, drawing abilities and have chosen to showcase these via zines; however i also publish in other venues such as literary magazines, anthologies, and my own books---but when im making zines i see myself as a 'zinester.' i dont know....perhaps im not making sense...then again who knows? whats your take?
Personally, I prefer the term "zine publisher" as opposed to "zinester" because I dislike the trivialization/infantilization/cuteification that happens when adding unnecessary suffixes. Zinester, hipster, scenester.... those words just irritate me on a semantic level.
So, if I need to label myself with something, it's "zine publisher". And I don't write zines about making out, bikes, or polyamoury, but curate comp zines about cleaning, television, and stuff you threw out.
Also - "Underworld Crawl" is a GREAT zine that deserves a much wider audience.
I've actually never thought of this this way but I must say it really doesn't bother me and to be honest, I actually kinda like the term. But then again, I am a moron that enjoys reading zines about rooftops and riding bikes. I think whenever it's mentioned how a zine "should be", it's going against what zines really are - anything you want. I understand not wanting to be lumped in with a scene, but I think it's a rather lovely "scene", and to be dissing people who makes zines about things you're not interested in, seems somewhat elitist.
I think too, I don't consider using the term "zinester" as a limited term, I don't see it meaning "oh everyone who is a zinester writes about rooftops". I see it as a term that means someone who makes a zine, and when I think of that, what comes to mind are people who write about queer issues, social issues, political issues, creative writing, art alongside everything else. I guess if you're embarrassed to be lumped in with the people who write about things that you don't enjoy, I can understand the balking at the term. Personally, I don't mind that. I enjoy that I'm part of a diverse "scene".
I don't object to people not liking the term and wanting to call themselves, say a "writer that uses the zine medium" instead though. As much I don't mind the term zinester, I do kind of understand what you're saying. Represent old-school right?
I write a zine to get my thoughts and writing out into a zine AND I also really dig being part of the community. I'm proud to be a zinester. Looks like I might stand alone on that one though going by the comments so far, eep. Maybe because I'm not old school and didn't make zines pre-1999? Am I the irritating new breed?
I've used the term zinester for 20 years, it doesn't bother me at all. But I rarely get hung up on words or feel confined or pigeon-holed by them.
"The term zinester and the zine community that is being pushed is really confining. I write a zine because it is a medium I have access to, not because I want to be a part of a community. Have you heard of a book community that just calls themselves that because they all make books? Republican writers chilling with Leftists and people who write cookbooks chilling with a sci-fi author because they are all booksters?"
This is what I don't get. By joining WMZ and posting this message, you joined a community. You may not want to be in a community, but you are. Have you ever attended a zine fest? Do you trade zines with other people? Community! It's underground (sort of), but it's there.